Matthew Toffolo interviewed legendary artist Harry Roseman for the third time to discuss his film "5 Hotels" (now expanding to 6 or 7 hotels), which explores the routine of leaving hotel rooms through abstract visual elements and subtle narrative observations. Harry explained how the film exists on two levels - abstract (focusing on color, pattern, texture, and rhythm) and narrative (following someone leaving a hotel room, walking through hallways, taking elevators, and exiting to the street) - with the underlying theme of the seen and unseen. They discussed how hotel routines are universal across different cities while being influenced by local culture and design choices, particularly noting the significance of hotel carpets and elevator designs. Harry shared his experience with public sculptures, including a large installation at an airport, and mentioned his ongoing projects including "Out From Under" (a series of 4-7 minute films about organizing his studio) and "Information" (a film featuring people sharing knowledge with him). The conversation revealed Harry's collaborative approach to animations with two helpers while maintaining directorial control over his other work, and his preference for working on multiple projects incrementally rather than completing them all at once.

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